{"id":2714,"date":"2023-05-16T20:23:45","date_gmt":"2023-05-16T18:23:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/stroteam.com\/?p=2714"},"modified":"2023-05-17T09:53:57","modified_gmt":"2023-05-17T07:53:57","slug":"chant-27-de-la-nef-des-fous","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stroteam.com\/index.php\/2023\/05\/16\/chant-27-de-la-nef-des-fous\/","title":{"rendered":"Des \u00e9tudes rat\u00e9es"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h1 class=\"has-text-align-center\">Chant 27 de la Nef des Fous par S.Brant  <\/h1>\n\n\n\n<h1 class=\"has-text-align-center\">Traduction de Madeleine Horst<\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">Le texte manuscrit de Madeleine est suivi de la transcription par George.   <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized is-style-default\"><a href=\"http:\/\/stroteam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/TMSB001.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" 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grelot,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>car d\u00e8s qu\u2019il faut s\u2019astreindre<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00e0 un travail s\u00e9rieux,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>les \u00e9tudiants pr\u00e9f\u00e8rent<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>aller faire la noce.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ils ne font pas grand cas<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>des sciences et des lettres :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>ils aiment aujourd\u2019hui<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00eatre leur propre ma\u00eetre<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>et choisir \u00e0 leur gr\u00e9<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>ce qu\u2019il convient d\u2019apprendre,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>m\u00eame sans r\u00e9sultat<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>et sans utilit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"is-layout-flow wp-block-column\">\n<p>Les magisters non plus<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>ne s\u2019int\u00e9ressent gu\u00e8re<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>aux bases du savoir,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>exer\u00e7ant leur babil<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00e0 la logomachie,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>essentielle \u00e0 leurs yeux :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>y a-t-il eu d\u2019abord<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>le jour ou bien la nuit ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>L\u2019homme a-t-il 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d\u2019\u00e9tudiants !<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"is-layout-flex wp-container-7 wp-block-columns\">\n<div class=\"is-layout-flow wp-block-column\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong>S\u00e9bastien Brant<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong>La Nef des Fous \u2013 1494<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong>Chant 27 (112 en tout)<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"is-layout-flow wp-block-column\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/stroteam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/SB.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2732\" width=\"212\" height=\"252\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stroteam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/SB.jpg 346w, https:\/\/stroteam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/SB-252x300.jpg 252w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 212px) 100vw, 212px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Chant 27 de la Nef des Fous par S.Brant Traduction de Madeleine Horst Le texte manuscrit de Madeleine est suivi de la transcription par George. Des \u00e9tudes rat\u00e9es Celui qui n\u2019apprend pas la science v\u00e9ritable fait tinter les clochettes de son bonnet de fou et est tenu en laisse tra\u00een\u00e9 par la folie \u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026.. Je [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":2732,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"off","_et_pb_old_content":"<!-- wp:heading {\"textAlign\":\"center\",\"level\":1} -->\n<h1 class=\"has-text-align-center\">L'Enigme Berthe Stroh?<\/h1>\n<!-- \/wp:heading -->\n\n<!-- wp:heading {\"textAlign\":\"center\",\"level\":1} -->\n<h1 class=\"has-text-align-center\">Novembre 2022<\/h1>\n<!-- \/wp:heading -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>En rangeant ses archives, Georges est tomb\u00e9 sur une note manuscrite qui devait accompagner l'arbre g\u00e9n\u00e9alogique r\u00e9alis\u00e9 par Madeleine Horst (voir la section Gen\u00e9a). Dans cette note Madeleine mentionnait que Berthe avait \u00e9t\u00e9 Gouvernante des enfants royaux au Ch\u00e2teau de Windsor sans aucune pr\u00e9cision suppl\u00e9mentaire.  Ci-dessous compilation des \u00e9changes sur le sujet.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:image {\"align\":\"center\",\"id\":804,\"sizeSlug\":\"full\",\"linkDestination\":\"none\",\"className\":\"is-style-default\"} -->\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full is-style-default\"><img src=\"https:\/\/stroteam.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/Berthe-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-804\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Zoom sur Berthe dans l'arbre<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<!-- \/wp:image -->\n\n<!-- wp:heading {\"textAlign\":\"center\"} -->\n<h2 class=\"has-text-align-center\">-I- Berthe Stroh, gouvernante \u00e0 Windsor. On a pas la preuve !<\/h2>\n<!-- \/wp:heading -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Ci-dessous le mail d'analyse de Novembre 2022.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:separator -->\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n<!-- \/wp:separator -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Salut Denise,<br>En r\u00e9sum\u00e9:<br>-Fritz Stroh n\u00e9 en 1816, mari\u00e9e en 1851 (\u00e9pouse Bruch). Fritz son p\u00e8re \u00e9tait \u00e9tait l'un des fr\u00e8res de notre Arri\u00e8re-Arri\u00e8re-Grand-P\u00e8re Georges (1812-1898)<br>-<strong>Berthe Stroh<\/strong> sa fille, n\u00e9e vers 1855-1860. Hypoth\u00e8se car nous n'avons pas sa date de naissance mais je le d\u00e9termine au doigt mouill\u00e9 en fonction de l'age des fr\u00e8res et s\u0153urs. Elle est d\u00e9c\u00e9d\u00e9e en 1938, c'est sur internet. Aucune info sur son \u00e9tat marital.<br>-On ajoute 20 ans minimum avec l'hypoth\u00e8se qu'elle n'a pas pu \u00eatre nounou d'enfants Royaux avant 20 ans. <br>-On obtient alors une date d'entr\u00e9e en fonction au plus t\u00f4t vers 1875.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Donc je dirais qu'il faut <strong>chercher la prise de fonction \u00e0 Windsor entre 1870 et 1925<\/strong> pour faire tr\u00e8s tr\u00e8s large.<br>Bonne recherche!<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Bise,<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Laurent<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:separator -->\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n<!-- \/wp:separator -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>La recherche n'ayant rien donn\u00e9 le cas reste un <strong>Cold Case<\/strong>. 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